[[ [2016-10-02] added document Type: email Date: 2011-11-15 Title: [Tlhingan-hol] new words from {qepHom} Germany Author: Lieven L. Litaer (reposting part of an email from Marc Okrand) Summary: Marc Okrand gives us definitions of some of the new words from the 2011 Saarbrücken {qepHom'a'}: {Qur} ~structure, organization~ (abstract) (n), {ren} ~design, map out~ or ~plan~ (v) and {renwI'} ~designer~ (anyone who designs a physical object, e.g. an ~architect~) (n) Also clarifications were given on the differences between the verbs {ren} ~design,~ {'ogh} ~invent~ and {nab} ~plan~. ]] Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:56:51 +0100 From: Lieven Litaer To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] new words from qepHom Germany Dear Klingonists, assome have mentioned already, we got some new words from Marc Okrand for our 10th qepHom in Saarbrücken, Germany. I had asked in advance what Klingons would use to describe an "architect", which is my job. I suggested the word *qurbuSwI'*, which my Morskan friend told me. Friends of architecture might see a pun here already ;-) Marc Okrand explained his own pun to me too, but I'll let you find it out. It's even a double pun! By the way, the word for "blueprint" mentioned below is {pu'jIn}, a word we learned some years ago. Here is the original letter: -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Subject: Re: qepHom Saarbrücken Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:52:23 -0400 From: Marc Okrand To: Lieven Litaer Lieven -- [...] Maltz has not been too cooperative lately in terms of giving out new words. Maybe things will ease up closer to the time of the qepHom. He did say, though, that there is a verb {ren} that means "design" or "map out" or "plan." He said that {renwI'} (which I guess in its most general sense means "designer") is a perfectly good term for architect, but it can also be used for someone who designs a vehicle, say. That is, it's not restricted to buildings. He said it would not be used for "architect" in the sense of someone being the architect of a plan to do something; it has to be used of a person who designs a physical object of some sort. {ren} is not the same as {'ogh} "invent," which implies creating something that hasn't been created before. And it's not the same as {nab} "plan" which is used for planning an event (or a battle strategy or whatever), just as the noun {nab} "plan" cannot be used to refer to blueprints. I asked him about Morskan *qurbuSwI'*. He said he wasn't really all that familiar with Morskan, but then he thought about it a little more and said he did know a word {Qur} that might be related, though it was difficult to translate. The best he could come up with was "structure" or "organization." He was quick to point out that this did not mean "structure" like a building is a structure, nor did it mean "organization" like an organization of people or even an organization of states. It means the way things fit together or the arrangement of the parts of something bigger. He said it could be used for "anatomy" when talking about animals. Though he looked a little pained when I suggested it, he agreed that one could say that Scotty understood the {Qur} of the Enterprise. [...] See you soon. - Marc _______________________________________________ Tlhingan-hol mailing list Tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org http://stodi.digitalkingdom.org/mailman/listinfo/tlhingan-hol [[eof]]